tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-741227658356358863.post4049857431463886254..comments2023-09-21T09:49:28.326-07:00Comments on Fierce Dandelions: Developing Patience with Communal SamsaraNathanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13920234350446745482noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-741227658356358863.post-82163711831157015372010-07-21T10:10:21.113-07:002010-07-21T10:10:21.113-07:00yes, same person, yes being tough on you; old phra...yes, same person, yes being tough on you; old phrase tough love. You're worth it, trying to read your words closely, clear and unclear alike.<br /><br />Actually, I don't think I'm being tough on you particularly. To paraphrase Bonhoeffer: any fool can separate right from wrong; it takes real freedom and no guarantees to separate right from right and wrong from wrong.<br /><br />If Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-741227658356358863.post-5027068326133995412010-07-21T07:58:20.922-07:002010-07-21T07:58:20.922-07:00Anonymous,
If you're the same person from th...Anonymous, <br /><br />If you're the same person from the last post, you're sure being tough on me. Not sure if I like that or not, but I accept it. <br /><br />Look, it's true that there are piles of brokenness everywhere. And at the same time, it's all perfect as it is. <br /><br />Maybe I'm a little too focused on the brokenness right now. <br /><br />"As NellaLou saysNathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13920234350446745482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-741227658356358863.post-43872083785057159522010-07-21T07:45:38.207-07:002010-07-21T07:45:38.207-07:00Algernon,
I'll second that call for silence ...Algernon, <br /><br />I'll second that call for silence sometimes. Those holes can get mighty deep without it. <br /><br />NathanNathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13920234350446745482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-741227658356358863.post-2798752118845854292010-07-20T20:38:51.227-07:002010-07-20T20:38:51.227-07:00So if I take your point in the last 2 posts
in Jun...So if I take your point in the last 2 posts<br />in Jundo's sangha<br />in your sangha<br />in your workplace, <br />in your family & life in general there are piles of brokenness.<br /><br />real leadership eventually gets past the breakdown, muddy & confused reactions and creates some basic human level workability.<br /><br />As NellaLou says clarity comes...when it comes.<br /><br Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-741227658356358863.post-32354899280407545572010-07-20T19:36:10.313-07:002010-07-20T19:36:10.313-07:00Very good closing point.
In my school, an oft-rep...Very good closing point.<br /><br />In my school, an oft-repeated analogy is drawn to the Korean style of washing potatoes, throwing a bunch of them into a tub and agitating the water so the potatoes rub against each other and get clean that way. <br /><br />Ideally, this includes the teacher. It really takes the piss out of the whole "teacher" thing when you have opportunities to seeAlgernonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01698040927871199780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-741227658356358863.post-70215963989062966572010-07-20T06:12:50.349-07:002010-07-20T06:12:50.349-07:00I set up and later moderated a mailing lists in th...I set up and later moderated a mailing lists in the early 00s and, standing back now, can say that it did not bring out the best in me. The problem is that you start a small group with an unspoken understanding between like-minded people but as the community grows the dynamic changes and becomes more chaotic and less clear. When founders, moderators and long-term members experience this they Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-741227658356358863.post-34440087307555279692010-07-19T19:13:31.024-07:002010-07-19T19:13:31.024-07:00Yes if not here then where? (a multi-locale questi...Yes if not here then where? (a multi-locale question) <br /><br />Clarity comes when it comes. And to the degree that it comes given the variables in any given circumstances. If we demand it of ourselves and expect it of others continuously that is highly unrealistic. <br /><br />I have found there to be quite a lot of tolerance for honest confusion. People can be quite empathetic about that. <brNellaLouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07247769132258539996noreply@blogger.com