tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-741227658356358863.post8087344415909493186..comments2023-09-21T09:49:28.326-07:00Comments on Fierce Dandelions: Whole Foods, U.S. Health Care, and Buddhist TeachingsNathanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13920234350446745482noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-741227658356358863.post-40257825117912186882009-08-20T04:44:54.466-07:002009-08-20T04:44:54.466-07:00Margaret Thatcher said "The problem with soci...Margaret Thatcher said "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of <b>other people's</b> money". And as I pointed out earlier, dana or generosity is given freely. <br /><br />Are the health care proposals socialist? <br /><br /><i>Socialism refers to various theories of economic organization advocating state, public or common worker (through cooperatives) ownershipAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-741227658356358863.post-62354510975894049402009-08-19T18:47:07.180-07:002009-08-19T18:47:07.180-07:00Nathan writes:
First Anonymous, what would you su...Nathan writes:<br /><br /><i>First Anonymous, what would you suggest the 47 million+ of us who are uninsured do then? Or those who have plans with 5-10 thousand dollar deductibles?</i><br /><br />Well, Nathan, my family deductible is well over 5000, a lot of things are not covered, and we pay our own health care bills in addition to paying for insurance coverage. So far we can do this because, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-741227658356358863.post-44053914755931608382009-08-19T16:40:52.435-07:002009-08-19T16:40:52.435-07:00First Anonymous, what would you suggest the 47 mil...First Anonymous, what would you suggest the 47 million+ of us who are uninsured do then? Or those who have plans with 5-10 thousand dollar deductibles? <br /><br />Do you really think we are all wasteful spenders who deserve to be where we are? <br /><br />Let me tell you this. I have no car, no cell phone, no tv or cable plan. I rarely go out to sporting events, concerts, or movies. I do not ownNathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13920234350446745482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-741227658356358863.post-5905705922771239102009-08-19T15:54:10.164-07:002009-08-19T15:54:10.164-07:00Nathan writes:
3. You seem to be obsessed with gov...Nathan writes:<br /><i>3. You seem to be obsessed with government spending. Are you also out there advocating a significant drop in our bloated military budget? And how about these bailouts passed under two Presidents from both major parties? Did you call out those as being wasteful as well?</i><br /><br />First Anonymous writes: Yes I am <i>concerned</i> about government spending. I don't Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-741227658356358863.post-83690840201332104622009-08-19T08:05:16.539-07:002009-08-19T08:05:16.539-07:00J9 anonymous - well, I have to say you and I are o...J9 anonymous - well, I have to say you and I are on a much closer page than you may realize. For the most part, I'm focused on alternative medicine modes such as the ones you mention. I've studied herbalism for years, aromatherapy, have visited accupunturists, have worked with accupressure - and I have friends who are midwives and massage therapists among other things. I'm much more Nathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13920234350446745482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-741227658356358863.post-81564374336322903052009-08-19T05:58:06.297-07:002009-08-19T05:58:06.297-07:00J9 said-Ok, my son tells me that my idea only work...J9 said-Ok, my son tells me that my idea only works for me because I love people, socializing, and talking with people. . .From the mouths of babes, I guess I won't argue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-741227658356358863.post-78069609790054180402009-08-19T05:45:10.888-07:002009-08-19T05:45:10.888-07:00J9 said-I don't mean to be anonymous and prefa...J9 said-I don't mean to be anonymous and prefaced my first comment with J9 said. I am very bad with computers & only know how to do the anonymous button so I'm really not trying to be anonymous like the other anonymous. The reason why I don't blog is because "Everything I Do Is Illegal" in the manner of Joel Salatin's book and WI already has NAIS in place. . .and Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-741227658356358863.post-39938620869092868632009-08-18T10:50:02.534-07:002009-08-18T10:50:02.534-07:00Anonymous,
I absolutely agree that we can all be...Anonymous, <br /><br />I absolutely agree that we can all be more resourceful when it comes to food. I have long been a supporter of farmer's markets, collecting food stores don't/can't sell anymore, and also harvesting wild foods. I'm a big "weed" junky, and deliberate let the nettles, purslane, dandelions, and many others grow in my garden. I also just canned some Nathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13920234350446745482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-741227658356358863.post-55961008634480214082009-08-18T09:43:30.526-07:002009-08-18T09:43:30.526-07:00J9 said-I just have suggestions & hope they do...J9 said-I just have suggestions & hope they don't interfere with Buddhism.<br /><br />2. Re: cost of health care. When I didn't have much money and with or without insurance, I went directly to HCP's (healthcare providers) & I would pay what I could or receive care pro bono. None of my HCP's (CNM, OMD, CCH, DDS, MD/CCH) ever denied me care. <br /><br />6b. I also live Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-741227658356358863.post-71110101612404536092009-08-18T08:33:20.417-07:002009-08-18T08:33:20.417-07:00Kris,
You're so right. We need to unearth all...Kris,<br /><br />You're so right. We need to unearth all this, and experience these voices to move beyond where we are at now. I appreciate that you added this to the conversation. <br /><br />Anonymous said "If you think private insurance is a bureaucracy, just wait until the government gets involved. Have you actually looked at the Health care act? And you seriously think the Nathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13920234350446745482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-741227658356358863.post-18660526284483453822009-08-18T07:18:53.272-07:002009-08-18T07:18:53.272-07:00Highly recommended reading on a Buddhist economic ...Highly recommended reading on a Buddhist economic perspective:<br /><a href="http://grossnationalhappiness.com/ArticlesonGNH/ArticlesonGNHinPDF/Gnh&dev-10.pdf" rel="nofollow">Buddhist Economics and Gross National Happiness</a><br /><br />Gassho,<br />GlendaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-741227658356358863.post-25614815463177319212009-08-18T07:02:45.044-07:002009-08-18T07:02:45.044-07:00You might like this The Book of Tibetan Medicine w...You might like this The Book of Tibetan Medicine which holds the secrets of healing and needs to be known by the world once again.Ralph Quinlan Fordehttp://thebookoftibetanmedicine.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-741227658356358863.post-55105543470188723952009-08-18T05:26:24.202-07:002009-08-18T05:26:24.202-07:00The healthcare debate has been heart wrenching and...The healthcare debate has been heart wrenching and maddening, but I'm grateful for all of it. Grateful that even the most wretchedly greedy and ignorant views are being heard. I'm hopeful that those views will help to "turn" the direction of the country toward a more compassionate, generous way of life. When we hear views so obviously rising from greed and fear, how can one not Krishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11518981252382574336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-741227658356358863.post-30790298497749025052009-08-18T02:48:24.761-07:002009-08-18T02:48:24.761-07:00Nathan writes:
As far as I'm concerned, the b...Nathan writes:<br /><br /><i>As far as I'm concerned, the best of the various options to fulfill this call is single payer. It eliminates the middle man (private insurers) and all the costs associated with their bureaucracy.</i><br /><br />With single payer, you are not eliminating the middle man, you are replacing it with the government. If you think private insurance is a bureaucracy, just Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-741227658356358863.post-17812003478494676572009-08-17T17:38:59.845-07:002009-08-17T17:38:59.845-07:00Hi Vagabonde,
Thanks for the info. about France....Hi Vagabonde, <br /><br />Thanks for the info. about France. It's not too surprising. Glad your mother was able to get some support and live a long life. <br /><br />Thanks everyone else for the comments. <br /><br />Bows,<br />NathanNathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13920234350446745482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-741227658356358863.post-85643934661972926532009-08-17T17:19:42.023-07:002009-08-17T17:19:42.023-07:00I think that greed is what is stopping proper heal...I think that greed is what is stopping proper health care in this country. I mean the greed of the pharma corporations and the insurance companies. The Constitution says (I am not sure where as I read it when I became a citizen) that the government has to provide for the protection and the “well being” of its citizens, or something like that. Protection would be the police and the firemen and Vagabondehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10774109692564954568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-741227658356358863.post-17026384271570896942009-08-17T16:24:45.017-07:002009-08-17T16:24:45.017-07:00Anonymous, you are missing several points. The aut...Anonymous, you are missing several points. The author isn't saying he wants free access. He's saying:<br />1) He wants *affordable access* to healthcare.He doesn't even have a policy because he can't afford it on his small teacher's salary. People like him (with no insurance) cost you and me more in the long run, with expensive emergency room visits when something does go RCFnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-741227658356358863.post-79615824469014072452009-08-17T12:19:22.818-07:002009-08-17T12:19:22.818-07:00Great article Nathan--so good to "hear" ...Great article Nathan--so good to "hear" your voice again. Be well.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17536040669017898289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-741227658356358863.post-75758647126020126012009-08-17T06:47:01.685-07:002009-08-17T06:47:01.685-07:00Anonymous, thanks for your comments. I've publ...Anonymous, thanks for your comments. I've published them for others to see - and I still disagree with you. Now, the readers can decide.Nathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13920234350446745482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-741227658356358863.post-34796676089999009322009-08-17T06:29:38.153-07:002009-08-17T06:29:38.153-07:00As for the scarcity argument, it can't get any...<i>As for the scarcity argument, it can't get any scarcer for me than the no access until I'm falling apart that I have now.</i><br /><br />You are confusing *no access* with *no free access* paid for by someone else. What you are saying is that you have to pay your own expenses when you get sick. Poor you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-741227658356358863.post-72709914175755777892009-08-16T11:00:34.991-07:002009-08-16T11:00:34.991-07:00Nathan writes:
Anony. - "The Buddha warned ho...Nathan writes:<br /><i>Anony. - "The Buddha warned householders to avoid spending more than they could afford." What does this comment have to do with what I wrote about?</i><br /><br />The government is already 11.4 trillion in debt, with <b>33.4 trillion</b> in unfunded obligations for <b>Medicare and Medicade.</b> Please see: http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-741227658356358863.post-86817051841195018152009-08-16T10:17:50.243-07:002009-08-16T10:17:50.243-07:00Anony. - "The Buddha warned householders to a...Anony. - "The Buddha warned householders to avoid spending more than they could afford." What does this comment have to do with what I wrote about? <br /><br />"The Buddha opposed stealing in all forms. Forcing taxpayers to pay for someone else’s insurance is legalized theft. Generosity consists of time and money freely given, not taken by force." You assume that the money youNathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13920234350446745482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-741227658356358863.post-90953907666330700982009-08-15T22:00:17.772-07:002009-08-15T22:00:17.772-07:00This essay is better than a lot of the stuff that ...This essay is better than a lot of the stuff that gets printed in that Tricycle thing. Quite good, really.Algernonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01698040927871199780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-741227658356358863.post-86849242920014192542009-08-15T20:29:50.807-07:002009-08-15T20:29:50.807-07:00Entitlement is a guarantee of access to benefits b...Entitlement is a guarantee of access to benefits because of rights or by agreement through law. The term is neutral and was used correctly.<br /><br /><i>"The solution to this ongoing crisis is to recognize that the very idea of a “right” to health care is a perversion. There can be no such thing as a “right” to products or services created by the effort of others, and this most definitely Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-741227658356358863.post-87349578699095596872009-08-15T12:30:09.153-07:002009-08-15T12:30:09.153-07:00I *certainly* agree that there is something very w...I *certainly* agree that there is something very weird about capitalist institutions doling out what healthcare we receive.<br /><br />Capitalism is all about increasing profit margins and, thus, limiting the amount of healthcare people ask for from their insurance company.<br /><br />I agree that a single-payer program has the most appeal. But I don't think that a single-payer program can Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13718601770472939313noreply@blogger.com